Woman in labor 'channels' Gastaldo!

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Here’s how my wife’s labor went… I adjusted my wife prior to taking her to the hospital and gave her frequent mid-sacral pressure during contractions with my hand during her short labor, and she did great.  She told me that her contractions were quite bearable with this, right up until the time at which she had to push. Her push-to-delivery time was less than 1 hour.  Her total labor time was about 6 and a half hours.  She had minimal tearing of the vaginal opeining. The labor was so fast that the OB was barely ready to deliver.   She has had a very good recovery time and to this date is no longer spotting. The techniques I used were similar to the midwifery and doula stuff used today, but I had learned it in chiropractic college, and in my excellennt LaMaze (sp?) classes. The adjustments I performed prior to putting her in the car to the hospital were: Upper cervical rotary bilaterally T1-12 general AP manipulation Pubic distraction lumbar manipulation rotary bilaterally Sacroiliac gapping into iliac extension and sacral nutation An A-P coccygeal manipulation would probably have also been applicable, but I left that as a last resort… I adjusted my new infant about 12 minutes after birth. P-A thoracic pressure with my fingertips Cervical rotary mobilizations with 5th phalangeal impulse opposite the direction of her birthing twist (i.e. into left rotation) Lumbar rotary mobilization with impulse Pelvic rocking bilaterally with my thumbs I did not do any cranial mobilization; I left that to the nurse practitioner Lastly, she got lots of hugs and some breast milk to get her started and still get’s _at least_ 3 hours of daily stimulation by movement in a variety of spinal positions (i.e. dancing and bouncing with mom and me)  :) She was born with a functional clubfoot bilaterally.  The left clubfoot went right into position.  The left one will be cast for 2-3 months. The pediatric orthopedist told me that the resistant clubfoot was due to shortening of the achilles/triceps surae on the right foot, and was a ‘neuromuscular condition.’  ;) She is now 6 weeks old and the clubfoot is no longer plantarflexing.  I was given the option of having her achilles slashed, or to put her in night splints for 1-2 years.  Guess which one I’ll choose My wife has been producing ample breast milk for eva, and I continue to manipulate my wife’s spine 1/week to keep the spine mobile.  I don’t have my wife on any products containing anything that will give the baby gas (i.e. broccoli), nor is she eating or drinking anything with MSG or NutraSweet/Aspartame (at least she’s not deliberatlyeating any) Some MSG is bound to ’sneak’ through into our foods. The problem I currently face is that I am a healtcare practitioner that deals with a lot of immigrant population.  Thus, from a public health standpoint, I will get my baby vaccinated applicably, lest I transmit diseases to her through direct or indirect contact first.  The fact that the fist two-three years of a baby’s life determines their immune-responses for the rest of their life keeps me resilient that she should be exposed to dirt-dust-dander (JAMA/NEJM?), but does that always include Hepatitis B?  Call me a questioning chiropractor, but I’ll be looking into this further on MEDLINE. Eva now sleeps 3-4 hour cycles at night and has been very healthy (at least according to her Ped) She has some baby acne, scratches from her nails, and the occasional crankiness from getting her leg cast changed… After about 7 am, she loves to sleep cuddled up with us in the morning before we get up for our day (it’s really, really hard to get out of bed in the morning simply because how beautiful she is Jay Hafner Loves being a Daddy Chiropractor

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> Her push-to-delivery time was less than 1 hour.  Her total labor > time was about 6 and a half hours.  She had minimal tearing of > the vaginal opeining. > The labor was so fast that the OB was barely ready to deliver.

Must be a pretty slow OB. The midwives were ready to catch my baby in under 4 minutes (a mere 7 minutes after I arrived at the hospital after beginning hard labour at home less than 1 1/2 hrs prior). Congratulations on your new arrival. Kalen

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Perhaps tongue-in-cheek… Moe wrote (about little Matthew’s birth): "[I was] lean[ing] over the ottoman for a contraction, when I CHANNELLED TODD GASTALDO!!  I heard a voice clear as day (in my head of course) that said ‘Open your birth canal’ (up to 30% I thought) so I spread my knees for this contraction…" –Moe on misc.kids.pregnancy http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4208685534d&hl=en&safe=off&rnu… m=3b89a6a4%40mindmeld.idcomm.com Dear readers, I am, of course, flattered to have been "channelled" by a woman in labor to help her open her birth canal maximally.. I would *love* to take credit but it appears that Moe was *already* positioned to open her birth canal maximally – BEFORE she heard ‘my’ voice – i.e., she was already off her sacrum, "lean[ing] over the ottoman." (Presumably, Moe was leaning over the ottoman frontwards – NOT on her back or butt.) Michel Odent, MD, a keen observer of birth says women need to feel unobserved at birth.  Moe’s was an unassisted water birth.  She was about as unobserved as a woman can get. (She reports that her husband was there – but he was not fully awake.) Odent once told me (on a break at a conference he was speaking at in Monterey, California) that women will SPONTANEOUSLY get off their sacra (tailbones) at delivery – if we will only let them birth feeling unobserved. He said that when women spontaneously get off their backs/butts – off their sacra (tailbones) – they are manifesting the "fetus ejection reflex." NOTE:  Patricia Blomme, RN notes that Odent says he, "…would never risk a breech delivery with the mother in a dorsal or semi-seated position." http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&selm=Jq057.622%24Ar1.1… 0dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net Why risk ANY delivery with the birth canal closed up to 30%!? Odent remarked upon the indigenous women who reportedly always squat to deliver – the indigenous women studied by Brazilian obstetricians Moyses and Claudio Paciornik (father and son). Odent acknowledged the Paciorniks’ report but said that most women in the world do NOT squat to deliver.  Rather, he said, women will crouch on one knee or use some other upright birth position:  They will NEVER deliver on their sacra/tailbones – if allowed to feel truly unobserved at birth, he said. Moe had an unassisted water birth.  One cool thing about waterbirths is buoyancy.  Even if the waterbirthing woman is on her sacrum, the water is buoying her up significantly. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo (For chiromotion details, see:  Adjusting babies with CHIROMOTION (includes acoustic chiropractic adjusting)… http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=26a8d392c7c49f64,1&… Odd7.2361%24Kl2.249558%40newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net#p Newsgroups: misc.kids.pregnancy Birth story for Matthew Edward, born Aug 24th at 11:54 am. 10 pounds 6 oz 22 inches long …Contrax right away were *hard*, thank god I only had about 10 of them! On the way from the bathroom I couldn’t make it to the tub and had to lean over the ottoman for a contraction, when I CHANNELLED TODD GASTALDO!!  I heard a voice clear as day (in my head of course) that said "Open your birth canal" (up to 30% I thought) so I spread my knees for this contraction…http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4208685534d&hl=en&safe= off&rnum=1&selm=3b89a6a4%40mindmeld.idcomm.com she heard "my" voice. semisitting) when the baby is emerging – it’s already too late for the Gastaldo maneuver – but you CAN remedy the situation by immediately rolling onto your side. (The Gastaldo maneuver is simply staying off your back/butt during late second stage as the baby is being born.) maneuver") when I realized that MDs are closing birth canals with the McRoberts maneuver.  Please help me stop them. See Prof. Andre A Moenssens to help babies?http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=27c8eb7ba0fa92a6,1& seekm=RXr87.936%246V.271972%40dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net#p We both remembered Jen’s advice for unassisted birth- rule #1 don’t pull on the head. inside birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%! rule #2  the body must come in out in the next contrax after the head, if stuck then wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle and stand up sometimes actually ripping spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords! [Rule] #3 don’t pull on the placenta… http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4208685534d&hl=en&safe=off&rnu… m=3b89a6a4%40mindmeld.idcomm.com thereby denying babies significant amounts of their own blood! See Bloody BIRTHQUAKE! Nancy Wainer (formerly Cohen)…Help! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&selm=Fpjd7.3130%24ZM2…. 40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net (If Google is down… My articles are also archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list.) >YAY!!  I’m SOOOO happy I will never be pregnant again.  I’m even happier to >finally have my new little son in my arms.

Oh, Moe, you had me cracking up throughout this – especially the part about channeling Todd Gastaldo!  rofl!  You RULE!  What a great story and a great birth!  Congratulations on your little bruiser. — Meghan Mom to Tristan (12/6/88) and Killian (7/18/00) Check out Killian’s website at http://www.allaboutkillian.comhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl… 534d&hl=en&safe=off&selm=jiajot0gobu2rds3p4o1catfa09cc5s8cl%404ax.com Hi Moe, Congratulations on the birth of your little (big) son. ROFL at the Gastaldo mention.  You will have to email him and let him know http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2285800507d&hl=en&safe=off&sel… .3548%24vI2.196331%40ozemail.com.au ottoman") when she heard "my" voice – and she was likely so positioned because she was not feeling observed – at least not by any cultural birth authority.

> Way to go!  It sounds like you had a GREAT birth, although I realize > you didn’t INTEND for it to be unassisted . . . > You know now you’re going to end up in one of Todd Gastaldo’s mega > posts??? > JessDang I don’t even know what that means, I have him killfiled!

Thanks btw Moe http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1009718051d&hl=en&safe=off&sel… c1c%241%40mindmeld.idcomm.com #######  Moe:  If by chance you read this (because someone quotes it back)… Congratulations on little Matthew’s birth. #######  As for having me killfiled… EVERYONE has a legitimate reason to killfile me once they get my primary message (which is): Give your baby up to 30% of "extra" room in the birth canal: Stay off your butt/back at delivery.  As noted above, you were already off your butt/back when you heard "my" voice.  I agree with Michel Odent, MD that women will AUTOMATICALLY do this if we let them. >> You know now you’re going to end up in one of Todd Gastaldo’s mega >> posts??? > Dang I don’t even know what that means, I have him killfiled! > Todd Gastaldo usually mentions most people who speak of his posts.  I > mentioned reporting him to his ISP for trolling and I ended up in one. > Kandee ended up in one.

about me (or my ideas) that I perceive to be untrue or misleading.  I always ask for others to do the same if they perceive that I have made errors… > Now that his techniques worked for you, YOU’ll end up in one. > Gu-arhn-teed.

butt/back – BEFORE she heard "my" voice.  I join Michel Odent, MD in believing that ALL women will stay off their backs/butts at delivery if we allow them to feel unobserved.  (Dr. Odent, if you’re reading this – if I’ve misconstrued what you said – please adjust/correct immmediately.  And Dr. Odent, why aren’t you joining me in stopping your fellow MDs from closing birth canals up to 30%?) It’s unfortunate that [Gastaldo's] approach annoys so many people because he has a lot of correct and helpful info.  My midwife has him in the rolodex at the office http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1009718051d&hl=en&safe=off&sel… A5A.D277%25kris%40bagiu.com #######  I "annoy so many people" in part because I take powerful cultural authorities (MDs) to task – explicitly and graphically. #######  MDs should NOT be closing birth canals and they should not be slashing vaginas (euphemism "routine episiotomy") claiming to be doing … read more »

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